Choose a unique faction and leader and challenge up to 5 other players, plotting and battling your way to galactic dominance; all in about 1 hour. Manage a feud between clans of your Warrior Culture. 8. Ironically, they'll be happier than the actual Fallen Empire hedonists, whom don't have a happiness boost. Jun 10, 2019 @ 6:46pm Pop job management in 2. The only benefit Utopian Abundance has over Decadent Lifestyle is that unemployed people aren't unhappy and produce a little research and Unity, but this isn't a big deal in the current meta. Decadent lifestyle should have been some sort of "dark", non-egalitarian utopian abundance, with profound impact on the structure of your society. Currently, pleasure seekers is in a weird place. I've taken it out of the rotation for my utopian roleplays, because it simply clashes and isn't much worth it if you are not using the decadent lifestyle it opens access to. Planet 3. Shared Burden or Utopian Abundance look after the negating political power and ensuring every class has equal. Mistfox. . Now, what about we make unemployed pops actually useful and a. All of society divides into idle masters that enjoy every luxury, and the underclass that provides said luxury. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the 4X grand strategy game Stellaris by Paradox Development Studio. since utopian output is not affected by. It goes downhill from there. The more pops you uplift to utopian abundance, the stronger the effect. It was announced on 2017-02-02 [1] and was released on 2017-04-06 [2]. That's not quite how Stellaris uses the term, in common usage, yes "materialism" is "consumerism" but in Stellaris, it's more used along the lines of "rationalist" vs "spiritualists" i. Political Power was supposed to re-balance from within the set total to give those at the top more influence and power over elections, happiness, etc. If POPs have social welfare, shared burdens or utopian. The Free Haven civic is also an option. 1125 extra consumer goods. There is one unconventional strategy that involves using Xenophobe/Egalitarian with Nihilistic Acquisition; steal pops, purge the xenos for resource income, run domestic servants for amenities, and leave your main species unemployed on utopian abundance for science. Social welfare with a huge amount of resources IS utopian abundance. All of society divides into idle masters that enjoy every luxury, and the underclass that provides said luxury. ha ha stellaris is such a fun escape from reality ha ha. for utopian abundance. This is wrong actually, you can have slaves if you're xenophobes alongside egalitarian. It is great, but only in later stages when you have a great deal of consumer goods income. Put a commercial zone down but it's only fir the 1 merchant. Go into the stellaris install folder, then make a copy of the original 'species_rights' text file. *The exception is synth-ascended Fanatic Materialists, who can get like ~90% robot upkeep reduction fairly reliably, which drops the CG cost to . The mod. I tend to take Egalitarian for the sake of Utopian Abundance(You will eventually want to pay the extra mineral cost of Social Welfare/Utopian Abundance in Consumer Goods to ramp up production of your other resources via Happiness). Jump to latest Follow Reply. By 2350 I had 6,000+ pops on utopian abundance devouring a truly ludicrous amount of consumer goods, not to mention the +2 penalty for each unemployed pop across 80. I simply start prioritizing pop growth af, make migration treaties, etc. 0. 8 credits, which at a 2:1 conversion rate is an 0. Stellaris is a sci-fi grand strategy game set 200 years into the future. Also, it's just funny to be Environmentalist, vassalize another player, and then build Ranger Lodge holdings on their biggest Forge/Factory Worlds; thereby preventing them from turning it into an Ecumenopolis. I usually just set utopian abundance and see how many sardines I can cram in there with max city districts and housing buildings,. I mean, yeah, the fact that you can still gain the benefits of Utopian Abundance when you have -7k consumer goods a month, and still maintain a population with -11k food a month, is literally broken. Utopian Abundance is always better assuming that CG are not a factor. 2. You might want Agrarian Idyll in place of one or the other civics. 475 credit loss. ago. 5 Trade value per Pop; no Egalitarian Shared Burden: 0. So, it's actually a good combo with its merits. There are builds centered around utopian abundance by itself, and some builds can use that living standard basically for free because they can make consumer goods at. Pops generate trade value automatically just from existing, the amount is higher based off their living standard, utopian abundance is a very high living. ) Slavery is banned, native interference is banned (in breach of galactic law. . Utopian Abundance. There are many ways to do it. This little mass products price does not make a difference. Utopian Abundance provided to all Razian citizens, enabling every Razian to achieve their wildest dreams. Despite being a. Please, oh all mighty PDX Stellaris devs, would you buff environmentalist to give, say +10% habitability? Right now that -10% pop consumer goods cost is useless. - Utopian Abundance: Star Trek in the TNG era depicts this type of society. Both Utopian Abundance (Egalitarian only) and Social Welfare living standards will stop your unemployed pops from being unhappy and allow them to produce some minimal resources while unemployed (Research and unity for UA, just unity for SW) Also, as long as there are jobs available on other planets pops should move on their own eventually. 6. Super-early game can be a bit taxing for this origin, but the research will quickly make up for it and you get quite a few other small bonuses too. Therefore PP being equal, +1 happiness = +0. Also, this prevents the ruining of buildings due to falling below the pop requirement. That. Conquer the entire galaxy, give them all Utopian Abundance, and stack them all on one planet. This will also enable high stability and high happiness. Colonizing what he can get with okayish habitability. An annoying thing that I've found is that the game continues to treat unemployment as an emigration booster even if you have utopian abundance enabled. The only overwrite is living_standard_utopian, removing the few lines that checked ethics. * The formula governing faction unity production stays the same, so the total political power of faction within an empire using Utopian Abundance is comparatively tiny to most other setups. ago. Utopian Abundance can be quite OP if you use it at the start of the game (and maybe further in. 2-0. Let that sink in for a while. Thread starter ZeeHero; Start date Sep 14, 2022; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our. You can combine militarism with any ethic that you want, with egalitarian and utopian abundance fore all you can make new pops loyal even without etic shifts and they will slowly convert to youre government ethics anyway, with autoritarian ot spiritualist you can bust youre government etics attractions (castles. May those who yearn for socialism get what they want, and no one else. . There should be an option. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Based on the wiki's formula, the Progressive faction should produce more than 36 unity. like, it's the same thing at heart, but one is not working with the abundance it. The end goal is that pops could sustain themselves at Utopian Abundance standards solely with their own Trade Value. For example, in Antebellum South the profits from slavery mostly went to the Southern Slavocrats, in Stellaris terms that would be a stratified economic system with slave guilds. #8. This is an updated version of PrinceJohn's mod which allows any empire to use the Utopian Abundance living standard after researching a technology. Track down 75 energy credits that have gone missing deep in your Byzantine Bureaucracy. if You are setting utopian abundance it is because you're playing. However, there's a marked difference between something being possible and something being good, and this is definitely not a good approach. My current playthrough turned out WAY too wide for me to do it lol. All Discussions Screenshots. So I was playing a semi casual multiplayer, I had a chat with the top guy who has the most fleet power and technology and hes saying hes using utopian abundance, ignore consumer goods and lletting unemployed pops do the research and unity. In this s. Utopian Abundance in Stellaris requires some significant investment into consumer good production or trade. It is developed by Paradox Development Studio and published by Paradox Interactive. Robots should be set on force labour (as they can't be set on UA so at least they can produce something). Stay here for the news, screenshots, videos, discussions, and updates for space strategy game Stellaris Console Edition. I have default species rights set to utopian abundance. Both have roughly the same impact on stability, with the +900% political weight and +15% happiness to rulers overwhelming the political weight of other stratas. 072 = +13. Alternatively you could run something else in place of Aristocratic Elite at game start (like say, Life Seeded or what have you) and add on AE as your third civic. Hive minds, only organic ones through. Full. The expansion was accompanied by the free 1. Almost identical to Tampere, the third-largest city in Finland and the most. Democracy-boosted auto-migration is not only cheaper than manual resettlement in the early game, but doesn't require the faction-approval penalty. Else, build one commercial center (upgraded) then build three utopian domes, should keep you alway at enough housing and jobs. 1125 extra consumer goods. Utopian Abundance, +20% happiness across the board, 1 consumer good use, all pops have perfectly equal political power; Chemical Bliss, +40% happiness across the board, 1. Best. 2% job output and Trade Value) and nearly twice the trade value (on average) for +10% CoG upkeep - literally Utopian Abundance but cheaper. However, if you have others pop on the planet that you forgot to set to Utopian Abundance then you get no protection, and sadly "assimilation" counts as a type of unemployment that isn't utopian abundance so be careful of having too many biological pops assimilating at once. With the same presumptions as before, that's 0. same way you have to be egalitarian to use utopian abundance and (i think) authoriarian for stratified economy < > Showing 1-15 of 19 comments. Weaker empires that can't protect themselves from the horrors of space become beloved vassels, protected from harm by our mighty fleets. I'm wondering how it would be living in a society with "Utopian Abundance". Stellaris 50411 Bug Reports 30702 Suggestions 19115 Tech Support 2882 Multiplayer 377 User Mods 4631 Stellaris AAR (After Action Reports) Console edition 1214 1 2 The CG cost of Utopian Abundance with Pleasure Seekers is exactly the same as the CG cost of running Utopian Abundance without Pleasure Seekers. Food did not matter, because pop growth was halted on your overcrowded slum. Which is better with Utopian Abundance? I can't figure out whether my Utopian Abundant empire would be better off as Fanatic Xenophile for the +20% Trade Value, or to be Fanatic Pacifist for the Culture Worker's +10% to Trade Value From Living Standards, with 6 Culture Worker jobs from a fully upgraded building. 2018 v 9. Stratified economy if you take the planet as a whole. Mineral income thresholds: 300+ to activate, 200- to deactivate; x0. Utopian Abundance is certainly misguided in this, not because a problem with Utopian Abundance exactly, but because Political Power was poorly slapped over other mechanics. No research/unity buildings. 3 CG each. 5; 15 from the regular unity output and +10% from the Hypercomms Forum. Will only use if egalitarian. Rorschach Jan 2, 2019 @ 2:19am. . The CG cost of Utopian Abundance with Pleasure Seekers is exactly the same as the CG cost of running Utopian Abundance without Pleasure Seekers. What utopian abundance would actually mean for robots? Pleasure is an evolutionary device meant to encourage specific behaviours, which can be exploited and distorted beyond this simple reason (like, you take pleasure in eating things because eating is good for you, but this mechanism can lead to gluttony). Stellaris. shared burdens is the "transitional society" to it. And while it IS good, I find Utopian abundance to be comparable, as it gives a massive bonus to happiness (20% for ALL strata), while this only gives a 5% bonus to happiness with the perk from mercantile. And oh boy does it mess things up. It was announced on 2017-02-02 [1] and was released on 2017-04-06 [2]. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the 4X grand strategy game Stellaris by…If another mod over-rides any of those, it's unlikely to be compatible with this mod. mainly clerks from either commercial zones or city-districts. Sure, it's a nice option to have in the late-game when you have a super productive economy to pay for it, but given how late in the game it's. Well, with the Knights specifically, common advice is to rush the +3 stability per Knight bonus, and then use a bunch of slaves to get an economy of basically unlimited size. utopian abundance used to be about "abolishing. Pops in my borders have 100% happiness while the neighbors are running "decent conditions", slavery, constant deficits and various other atrocities. This seems fairly agtainst the grain of the purpose of Egalitarianism, because one of the whole buffs of being egalitarian is having +50% Unity from factions. It seems these "not really unemployed, but can't take other jobs" pops (pre-sapients, servants, toilers, etc) cause this. Best way is Spiritualist/ Anything. Reply. Thread starter master9147; Start date Nov 25, 2018; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our. With Utopian Abundance giving about twice the amount of pop trade value as Decent Conditions. It cost me . Chemical bliss is + %40 happiness. While Utopian Abundance is what it sounds, Academic Privilige places a heavy emphasis on education instead of simply fufilling every material need (like Utopian Abundance does). The greater good is mostly good, it's trade off is banning every living standers but utopian abundance and mandatory pampering. I'm not saying that I disagree with the notion that slavers should have to consider the possibility of revolt. Actually, thinking about all the 'Utopian Abundance' civilizations in fiction, like the Culture or the United Federation of Planets, I think I gotta disagree from an RP perspective. 3 extra trade income. -egalitarian, xenophile, and pacifist as the governing ethics. Stellaris. After a long break I finally started playing Stellaris again, and I have to say late game overpopulation is by far the most annoying thing I've had to deal with in game. If you're having to actually use these, you're doing something wrong. ago. You can have high living standards by picking egalitarian (utopian abundance, they cost a bit more cg but give more trade) or materials (academic privilege give less to lower class but refuse there wight and give a. You'd want it for Utopian Abundance anyway. 8 credits, which at a 2:1 conversion rate is an 0. This build explodes through the tradition trees while still having lots of energy. It's a bit of a complicated equation, but the breakeven point is at roughly +16 stability, while utopian standard of living probably won't give you that much of a bonus. Taking wasteful as a free genetic trait would help some. 5. Click to expand. Commerce megaplexes, filled with robot clerks and sapient merchants. See my current thread. Utopian abundance gives consumer goods to the unemployed because it requires the the ethic that is not to keen on the concept of "make enough money to live. Also, having democracy makes it faster for your pops to relocate which is nice. Stellaris > General Discussions > Topic Details. 2 beta patch does indeed fix the bug. There was a wacky build that abuses utopian abundance unemployed pops for research and unity. And most of the wealthiest countries on Social Welfare or Decent Conditions. I have never used Utopian Abundance. Paradox / Steam. don't have criminal modifiers on it yet and once the planet has more than 3 pops that are both unemployed and have no Utopian Abundance/Social Welfare/Shared Burden living standards (or 10 unemployed non-bio. 6% resources from job/Trade Value? Probably not. 1 per pop. Ethics: egalitarian, militarist. After all, a happy slave is less likely to want to overturn the system. Good on paper, "who cares" in practice. The most relevant strategy is the capital upgrade rush strategy where you deliberately de-populate your homeworld in order to populate your primary worlds to size 10 ASAP. This is via the combination of the base living standard costs- which are OK, although Unemployed pops really should cost slightly less in Consumer Goods than employed pops at the same strata for any living standard outside Utopian Abundance, to represent the higher disposable incomes of employed people. And even "Social Welfare" offers only slightly weaker bonuses for. 5 Trade value per Pop; no Egalitarian Shared Burden: 0. robots. . Utopia Expanded adds the following features:Without building any additional unity buildings and just receiving it all passively, I was able to finish the first tradition tree at the beginning of year 4, while having decent output on all other important resources. This is correct, Utopian Abundance unemployment is not considered a job so it doesn't benefit from bonuses that increase resource output from jobs. And "no offensive war" is a big something in Stellaris. that I haven't tried half of the possibilities Stellaris presents. 4 Upkeep +5% Happiness;. 2% job output and Trade Value) for essentially +10% CoG upkeep over default Decent Conditions - literally Utopian Abundance but cheaper and with unemployed pops not giving Research (which doesn't. TL;DR, the base DOES count the research generated by unemployed pops as value, and (I think) preferences unemployed and valuable pops over not-valuable (non-utopian abundance) pops for jobs. Also the Assembly Decision sounds a lot better then it actually is, it resettles a lot less pops then you would needed. Actual fascists flock to the fandom because they don't understand how social commentary works. . Build commercial zone 1st turn off colonist jobs. if You are setting utopian abundance it is because you're playing a fast-growing empire, else it is just suicide. (I set default rights, and reset to default. 6 productionbonus means 0. Play as a Megacorp and give your pops Utopian Abundance, distributed luxury goods, free, fully developed healthcare buildings and maximum amenities on every world and terraform everything into Gaia Worlds just for the. Also worker political power but if you have utopian abundance that doesn't matter. if you don't believe me, look at utopian abundance: 1CG per month for ruler pops, 1CG per month for specialist pops, 1CG per month for worker pops. Fill the entire. However the problem lies with the Shared burden, and Utopian Abundance living standards. Change all species living standards to utopian abundance. If CG shortage is your concern, you'd not use Hedonism; if CG are not a concern, you'd. As in, if you use social welfare on some pops, and utopian abundance on others, Every Utopian Abundance pop will have less political power and thus produce less unity in a faction. I don't think you'd pick it even as authoritarian. . Pleasure seekers itself is powercreep, since 20% was utopian abundance's happiness number first and now pleasure seekers gets the exact same. Have your organic POPs on utopian abundance on ruler and (some) specialist jobs, with the rest being unemployed. Social welfare also gives more happyness now and gives 0. 4:. No research/unity buildings. Because in most situations, both (as well as Utopian Abundance) are worse than Decent Conditions, Social Welfare, Shared Burden, and Stratified Economy. Dotakiin [author] Aug 4 @ 6:13am. 5 Trade value per Pop; 1 Upkeep +20% Happiness +400% Political power +0. It's a weight applied to each Stratum. OP, I just think that Utopian Abundance and Decadent Lifestyle are meant to show different things. I'd have to disagree; Utopian Abundance only really starts to shine in the late-game, and until then it's not really that great. i don't support stalinism, so. Members Online. Actually, I think utopian abundance causes the job automation AI to act strangely. My faction unity halves when I equip utopian abundance instead of just the regular decent conditions. Rhoderick. I'm laughing maniacally at the popgrowth potential. That is to say, if a pop with the Intelligent trait is working any job at all which produces any kind of research points (including unemployment under the Utopian Abundance living standard, because unemployment still technically counts as a job for. . It gives you a flat 10% bonus to research, which is better than the equivalent happiness bonus. All tiers have the same high upkeep, high trade value. Stellaris. 4 equality. "the imperium of man are the good guys". builder680. After all, a happy slave is less likely to want to overturn the system. You can also set species living standards to social welfare, academic privilege, or utopian abundance to help produce other resources while getting rid of consumer goods. The better question is why you would want to use either, besides roleplay. Set the living standard for your main species to Utopian Abundance. Utopian POPs will consume huge amounts of resources, but this will. To make my update of the mod, I checked the changes this version has, then took the current utopian abundance section from Stellaris and applied the same changes. Confirmed, opting into the 2. Match ethics to play style and bomb then all out on drugs to achieve paradise :)Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris. 2% job output and trade value. *The. r/Stellaris. Well, in canon the Spiritualists are right. . Ran into the same problem last night while achievement hunting. 2 release, back when Wiz was still Game Director of Stellaris, someone asked why Utopian Abundance was restricted to egalitarian empires. Egalitarians with Utopian Abundance can at least avoid most of the penalties associated with overpopulation, but ensuring everyone is relocated to a planet with available jobs is still a massive economic benefit to them and leaving things unmanaged is strictly a "quality of life" thing and you're still objectively better off resettling pops around. utopian abundance for everyone) is a tad bit. However, if you have others pop on the planet that you forgot to set to Utopian Abundance then you get no protection, and sadly "assimilation" counts as a type of unemployment that isn't utopian abundance so be careful of having too many biological pops assimilating at once. which you can't get on gestalt empires. 2) Flip the species rights settings back and forth a bit, and / or ensure that all. This civic lets you have trade worlds instead of mining worlds. The bounties of the stars are shared to all Razians. Does anyone know why?. Unless that's not vanilla. Shared Burden's requirements are less about the raw power of the civic as they are about how powerful other civics are when paired with it. 6 consumer goods per citizen. Not chemical bliss bad, but still terrible in most situations. There is. Stellaris. This effect would also buff unemployed science and unity production. For example, pops under utopian abundance wouldn't help factions gain much unity, since their living standard didn't increase their political power, despite it being a. #8. Best. I did a run a few months ago where I switched to Utopian Abundance at the very start of the game. I'd say the big thing going for it is utopian abundance paired up with synthetic ascension. As far as I am aware egalitarians are the only ones who can use utopian abundance and authoritarians are the only ones with access to stratified economies. Naposledy upravil Apeironic_Entelechy; 22. Paradox / Steam. 2 beta patch before starting it up, though I don't know if it actually was the cause. Propulsion Proponent Proclamation. Stellaris Dev Diary #321 - Origins and Civics self. Either ethic can eventually become communist with Utopian Abundance, or choose not to and stay stratified. Sure, I would join as a collab. Meanwhile my egalitarian megacorp with utopian living standards is quietly sipping tea in the corner. . An annoying thing that I've found is that the game continues to treat unemployment as an emigration booster even if you have utopian abundance enabled. Just some guidance about Utopian Abundance, depending on the game, usually 7-11 unemployed pops feels right, I usually try and land within the lower end of this number, with the stopping point being where I would need to change the species rights for another species, but you can scale this number up during the first 20 years as you get more of. 2% job output and trade value. This is pretty much the only viable tall strategy right now. Rorschach Jan 2, 2019 @ 2:19am. Getting 100% gives a 20% yield bonus on everything which is pretty good. So hey, turns out that Utopian Abundance can completely break the game if handled in a certain way. You need 6. ago. The thing about Utopian is that its not as expensive as it seems at first glance. Bonus points is the happier your pops are the less crime they create, I've conquered AI planets wracked by crime (at 90-100%) and had it completely disappear the moment I took control because of Utopian Abundance. Who give only happiness. pro. Stack all -% upkeep on your Utopian pops to make them much more useful. @greaseHole, I've not updated this since May, of course. Multiple civics, including fanatic purifier. The only reason is maybe a role play. ago. UA gives 10% more happiness than social subsidies, so we can look at it as a 10% extra happ, which above 60%happ equals 5% bonus yield. 6 consumer goods per citizen. Which is better with Utopian Abundance? I can't figure out whether my Utopian Abundant empire would be better off as Fanatic Xenophile for the +20% Trade Value, or to be Fanatic Pacifist for the Culture Worker's +10% to Trade Value From Living Standards, with 6 Culture Worker jobs from a fully upgraded building. The former doesn't disqualify their egalitarianism because they simply can't do it while the latter doesn't disqualify it because they care about helping people and in their sensory organs aliens. authoritarians have their own version of utopian abundance now with decadent, which is great for making sure people who aren't. r/Stellaris • Is it possible to mess up long-term by researching the wrong anomaly with the wrong. acolight • Introspective • 3 yr. Mineral income thresholds: 300+ to activate, 200- to deactivate; 10 = Academic Privilege. Not chemical bliss bad, but still terrible in most situations. Political Power was supposed to re-balance from within the set total to give those at the top more influence and power over elections, happiness, etc. If utopian abundance reduced slave happiness to 0% (by applying a -1000% happiness penalty) then the desired outcome would not come to pass. Utopian Abundance just isn't very good to begin with, and Megacorps don't have any real synergy with it. ReplyCurrently, pleasure seekers is in a weird place. 5 Trade value per Pop; 1 Upkeep +20% Happiness +0. Utopian Abundance - since you are playing egalitarian, choosing this will let you have unemployed pops building unity while you researching new tech or building new planets to resettle them. ago. There is absolutely no in-game indication that the pops are being any more decadent than normal beyond the name and flavor text of the civic. The only reason is maybe a role play. Subscribe to downloadUtopian Abundance Tech. I got the grunur and at first I was like that sucks. Going higher than that requires using things like Utopian Abundance unemployment to bypass normal job limitations, which are significantly less productive than proper jobs. 4. Thread starter Bezborg; Start date Aug 20, 2021; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our. 3. A technician with base 8 output will go from 0. Ignore that it's a living standard whose own flavor text doesn't claim it's utopia. May 15, 2020 @ 5:33pm Overpopulation So coming back to the game after a few years and overpopulation is going to be an issue soon. Closing those jobs should free 1-3 pops on every planet to do something more productive, like make CGs to support Utopian Abundance - just distributing those unnecessary enforcer pops to making CGs usually covers the cost and then some. It doesn't make any sense for ethic that heavily favour ruler strata. Chemical bliss is + %40 happiness. I can't prescribe that now, so you'll have to figure it out. . 9 Comments. * It's basically a lategame flex for egalitarians. One is Stellaris, and the other is Hearts of Iron 4, where they have introduced a Trotsky path that restores soviet democracy and gives all. The overpopulation stops growth, but that's okay, just keep resettling pops in there until it's full. It's a bit of a complicated equation, but the breakeven point is at roughly +16 stability, while utopian standard of living probably won't give you that much of a bonus. It depends on Utopian abundance for my main species while robots work all the jobs so the species can sit back and relax. Social welfare with a huge amount of resources IS utopian abundance. Miner produce 4 minereal. (A single clerk now pays the CG upkeep for 2 pops on utopian abundance with the consumer benefits policy) (Edit: Speaking of, put your pops on utopian abundance or academic privilege if possible,. While Hedonism is cheaper than Utopian Abundance, it's still more expensive than the other living standards, and it lacks several of the benefits of Utopian Abundance (including unemployment, Egalitarian ethics pressure, and even cheaper CG for ruler-pops). It also features compatibility with Galactic Imperium Unification but it is not required. Utopian Abundance + Domestic Servitude I'm not sure if this is a bug or if it's working as intended, but I find it frustrating nonetheless. The new pops will start as rulers, so you may want the harmony tradition that reduces pop demotion time, as well as either ways of making unemployed pops productive (social welfare, utopian abundance), or shared burdens for even faster demotion. The system should be reworked. Also early conquests can be hard to stabilise without a lot of consumers goods to spare. For utopian abundance to match academic privilege you only need 23 unemployed pops per research world, which is nothing in the late-game. Utopian abundance sets every pops political power 1, while social welfare gives rulers 4, specialists 2 and workers 1. I mean, yeah, the fact that you can still gain the benefits of Utopian Abundance when you have -7k consumer goods a month, and still maintain a population with -11k food a month, is literally broken. But unemployed pop will produce unity and research point ? This is ridiculus compared to academic previlage. 36% job output. Utopian Abundance: 1 Upkeep +20% Happiness +0. My desire is to have a main species and subservient/enslaved species' with the latter on utopian abundance producing the bulk of my research while my main species works the specialist jobs. Parody of a parody Introducing Parody². 072 = +13. 0 versions of Utopia Expanded, go HERE. Reply No-Tie-4819 Fanatic Materialist •. Pops generate trade value automatically just from existing, the amount is higher based off their living standard, utopian abundance is a very high living standard and so boosts the trade they produce decently high. Something like a soul does absolutely exist in Stellaris, since only beings that are alive can access the Shroud naturally. Because I can't understand why I would want that. Higher happiness attracts more immigrants. Utopian abundance increases happiness thus attracting immigrants. 5 trade which, while not self-sustaining in terms of covering the CG cost, does provide a significant energy/unity boost when you have it in a trade build. Ideology wars work like any other. Put everyone on Utopian Abundance and all pops have a base 70% happiness, which will get you the other 20% stability you need (which is the max you can get from happiness anyway). My main species is set to Utopian Abundance, but even though there are more pops than jobs, they aren't becoming unemployed because my slaves are taking domestic servitude jobs instead of working in. 8. ago. 264mineral. Especially for Fanatic Pacifist. 1 or lower difference)In Stellaris the two ethics have more to do with the political organization of society, it may be more apt to label them Autocratic vs Democratic, with Oligarchic as the middle ground between the two. 57 to 10. ok but what if every utopian pop buffed the others. Stellaris with a Twist is our streaming event, where Ep3o and AlphaYangDelete play co-op multiplayer, and try to accomplish goals suggested and. Subscribe to downloadUtopian Abundance Tech. + each pop living in utopian abundance passively generates 0. Apr 26, 2021. The key difference between them is that Academic Privilege gives +10% to researcher job outputs but incurs higher Consumer Goods usage. There are two ecumenopolis builds: Industrual Ecumenopolis: spam consumer goods and alloys districts. This mod allows for Galactic Empire have Utopian Abundance species living conditions, except Megacorp GA. The setup isnt good though, you would have massive unemployment, need to throw in a bunch of rank2 trade-centers (each giving 11 jobs) instead of the luxury housing, unless you are on utopian abundance standard of living. Don't worry about upgrading them until your alloy production is over 300 per month, either resettle pops into new habitats if authoritarian or run social welfare/utopian abundance as egalitarian. Also utopian abundance will be open for imperial authorities. Why did it take me so long to try this? Overtuned environmentalist conservationist low maintenance utopian abundance gaia seeders. Wiz's answer was there are a lot of restrictions by ethics because otherwise people tend to choose the same things every game and then every game feels the same. What do I mean by a crime phase? Crime is at zero, due to jobs, due to…R5: First time conquering the whole galaxy. Materialists will want utopian or academic. 1 Is that worth the extra 6 stability or 3. 9 ‘Caelum’ Patch Notes, and Ask Us Anything!what evil it's just some metal and biomass.